I strongly believe, not worth to go in a Barking Mode as a counter step. Once one goes with name calling and derogatory reference with or without any rationale to others, already a sign of ignorance and pitty.
I would simply urge our dear 'Super Google-Free Intellect' to stand by his claim:
"I had exposed long ago that some google search darbari is sharing pieces of Fake News as Facts!"
** Open Challenge: 1 Single Instance of exact pinpoint or highlight wherever any false/fabricated/fake news have been shared from this account on the same forum? I will publicly apologise for that. Otherwise, I will discard that as a random troll reflecting his/her inner frustrations. Fortunately or unfortunately a working mouse/keyboard and some data package makes one eligible to be.
** Our dear probably is the most frequent google hater with 'KAFIR BABA', quotes
** Yes, if like our dear forumer being a hard core tout of DHA or BT means practical experience of matters, yes consider me a naive in such context.
** The cause of such politeness and name calling are due to the fact that some of the non-sense that was busted by me earlier. May be our dear has taken that too seriously. It natural for a name calling individual to be allergic to independently verified data, doesn't matter if that comes from state official sources. Following are some golden words from our dear forumer has been sharing, just few examples, self-explanatory for the possessed calibre already reflected above:
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-- "Increased sex drive"
-- "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS5G_b0z5dA&feature=youtu.be
XXXXXX SCENE FROM P K 2014 FULL HD"
-- "It is laughable and shockable and poor MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS to suggest pakies to keep $ with the hope to earn with it." - 177 days ago
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** Again, the Point: Bring in one instance of any false/fake/fabricated news shared by this account on this forum and I owe an open apology to all. Rest of the text, probably isnt worth even scrolling through... Otherwise, troll-dosage becomes a collective responsibility in cyber-driven bigotry, I just need to play my tiny bit part.
-- I am here waiting...
This dumb and dumber and the dumbest man on the earth had 27 $ a barrel for long time. She had such a reduced bill for fuel import. She had the chance to strengthen the rupee back to 1$=60.
But she begged enough money to fill the pockets of her naliaq tareen kiddos.
She did not work on hydro power which gives the cheap electricity. She did all for electricity to full the pockets of her dumbest sons in UK.
CPEC was started by Commando( who ran out of the country like a TIGER....ohhhhh Dear isloo1....)......... It was zardari sahiba who visited 5 times to china in 2013 to start the CPEC. It was just delayed by the security situation in the region.
By 2014 the security situation had improved in your country and so octopus decided to go for CPEC......
This is dumb and the dumbest man had the chance to review the CPEC agreements as that was the start of the project but nothing was done to make the agreements in the best interest of this orphan country.
Please this dumb and dumber did nothing in CPEC than changing the route to increase her vote bank.
I would have constructed CPEC with my own money if this dumb and dumber man had balanced the import export with the octopus but she did nothing in this regard.
When she, The dumb and dumber (NS) was reciting few verses from a bible before Obama in white house so in some other part of the world, few reps of USA told me "Mr. Khan so this man gonna change the destination of your country???"
Yes the Paki Donald Trump, The Immi( the dim :) ) gonna fix this whole mess in the next 10 years In Sha Allah.
Two questions:
1) What is the position of Imm the Dim on CPEC. Other than moving the begging bowel, of course.
2) How long hydro power projects take to complete (minimum time) to produce lets say 1000mw.
In fact a 3rd question for reality check sake.
3) how many of the promised 350 small dams did Nalaiq-e-Azam built in 5 years in KPK, and who stopped him.
And, allow me one more...
4) how many of the promised model villages/houses did this Zakat chore built from Rs. 3bn flood chanda collected by his IKF with the help of Mir Shakeel ur Rehman (Geo/Jang,,, yes!) in 2011.
Bhai jaan, i am on the ground, and i know this imposter till banyan! He did zilch in 5 years in KPK and he will do nothing in this 5 years.
Mark my words.
Yes I agree with Mr.Ilyas that Abdul Qayuum sahab and Nadeem Sahab are a true and honest guide when it comes to property investment .The concrete reason we also come to this forum to read there comments and opinion because they themselves have invested in Both pakistan reputable socities DHA and Bahria and they share their real experiences and guide people. And off course they do not cut and paste from internet. Believe me no one is interested to read these long write ups of others who are naive about real estate investment.
Earlier i read some time before Imtiaz cannot even differentiate between DHA own projects Dha phases 1 ,2 ,3 ,4 and Dha Joint venture projects Dha Valley Dha city and etc.
Please donot waste yours and others time as no one is interested in reading write ups and forum members repeatedly told you share real experiences not internet literature .
If somone believes in another poster as better guide, then you are free to follow him. Nobody stops you. I have different opinion however, and it does not mean I have no right to write on this forum.
If you are so convinced, then why not start a private WhatsApp group, whats the point in pushing your ideas on the entire public here.
I know the reality of many gurus, who earned guru status by writing 1500 single line posts "I am agree with you". Click on some profiles of gurus and you'll know their depth.
Nobody should try to become mama of this forum.
--> "I had exposed long ago that some google search darbari is sharing pieces of Fake News as Facts!"
** Still Waiting: 1 Single Instance of exact pinpoint or highlight wherever any false/fabricated/fake news have been shared from this account on the same forum?
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Due respect to AQ sb and Nadeem sb! with their knowledge, myself still learning a lot from them.
Dear Riyadh,
1. I guess no one shoves any text down someone's throat. I believe by the time one reaches 29th post and that age in life, one understands that there is a 'Next Button' at the bottom of the page, that allows one to skip what one don't like.
2. I feel when one speaks for him/herself, its a sign of half decency rather then some sort of wanna be Community Leader. Avoiding terms like "no one is interested to read these" by an individual can somehow minimize inflated ego.
3. I am unaware of any living creature of our time who may had emerged out of womb with 'Know All' miracle. We are all here to learn with time and evolve. Apologies, if some time ago, I didn't qualify your set criteria of being Knowledgeable: "some time before Imtiaz cannot even differentiate between DHA own projects Dha phases 1 ,2 ,3 ,4 and Dha Joint venture projects Dha Valley Dha city and etc."
-- If you still believe that DHA's hands were not fully drenched in Valley and City mess to show the Honey Pot for money minting (see receipts and official docs to customers), my sincere sympathies for such innocence. Time to enlighten on how DHA plays the game, the success becomes DHA X, failures become Valley/City/etc. Thats DHA for you, take that as a note, before your claim for next time.
4. I am not that (typical) dealer to post inflated prices of plots to give 'All Good, Sweet Dreams' hype to whoever may had invested. This is a Currency Devaluation thread. Whats one's personal Experience here? Expecting some former Finance Minister, Some retired FBR guy to jump in here and tell their personal experience on how they de/up-valued currency and economy? sorry, not gonna happen here.
-- Next time your guy lecture you on Riasat e Madina or Welfare State, don't forget to ask him 'His Personal Experience in building one'
5. To my dear, 'Google Hating Pseudo Intellect Brigade', in a world full of fake news, an independent verifiable proof represents cross validated evidence that can be checked by anyone. Its not 'Google', its publicly available, independently verifiable source, if one can differentiate? If you expect some Cooked Up Disney Tale for ego-massage, sorry mate. Believe me, putting stuff with proper reference takes more efforts then to be a mere keyboard junkie.
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By the way, waiting...
- for you to 'share real experiences' of yours (working as some sort of official finance guy) to guide the naive ones on Currency Devaluation with first-hand experience. Also, do the favour to Point out the copy-paste text!
- your buddy to provide evidence of his claims of Fake News. May be he is in spiritual mode, not using google with his Copy/Pasted Quotes and Benefits of some sort of ICE/Marijuana on very same forum. In good faith, I assume that was Google Search, not Personal Experience
Common sense tells, there is one hell of a difference between discussing/buying/selling plots and discussion on Currency Devaluation Otherwise, ignorance can be handy, if one prefers to live with that....
Be blessed :)
We can blame Pppp , Pml-N all day long, but they are not the only parties to blame for our economic condition.
We all know this country is not run by only politicans. And same establishmet is damaging PTI to the core.
IK is a disappointmet, forget about economy. The way he dealt with Buzdar, azam Swati , sahiwal issues. Shameful.
"Buzdar, azam Swati , sahiwal issues" and alike (self-inflicted brilliance) classified under three tags:
(1) Previous ones were chors and corrupts so this is bound to happen
(2) Previous ones did the same, why are you upset now.
(3) IK is powerless now, he will sort that out in coming years (Though, I do wish, in a personal capacity, atleast).
Chapter Closed!
When Personal Experience is shared, the dears counter that with Social Media driven progress and when official data with online access is shared, the demand comes for Personal Experiences and publicly available indicators are generalised as 'Google Cut/Paste'.
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Now the irony bit:
Others'self: "Darbari"
One'self: "The Immi( the dim :) ) gonna fix this whole mess in the next 10 years"
Democratic Citizens after showing a reflection to the Darbaris, on the very same page grant next 10 years to (Badshah Salamat) including extra 6 yrs out of 5 yrs of a tenure whose election is even 4 years apart.
Darbari = 'individual in a monarch setup to propagate and ensure King's comfort/agenda/preferences'
sound familiar...?
.We blamed pmln for model town killing, but after Sahiwal incident, I am sure. PTI would exactly done the same...
I advocated PTI all my life and still do.
but we should not follow these political leadership blindly. Before Elections IK said " Ay Allah hum teri ibadat krte hain aur tujh madad mngtay hain" after election he did sajda to a grave in Pakpattan...
Ik and Cabinet doing Umrah and enjoying the luxurious lifestyle. No efforts to prevent incidents like Farishta etc
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Personal Experience: Strengthening Economic Indicator preview available at nearest Petro Stations! - Jun 01
-- Naya Pakistan
Petrol price increased to Rs112 per litre (112.68 to be precise)
https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/06/petrol-price-increased-to-
rs112-per-litre/
-- Purani Dunya:
U.S. oil benchmark closes at 3 1/2-month low, down over 16%
for the month
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-oil-heads-for-worst-
may-since-2012-and-worst-monthly-decline-since-november-
2019-05-31
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Personal Experience: Free Float Exchange Rate but Managed Stock Market! - May 31
Bailout for brokers ('market support fund')
https://www.dawn.com/news/1485628?fbclid=IwAR0lwhlYJWOI-
BDYr2H9UnwAxxCO1p2zVfkESd3vu4PROjZjkOcTDx6QShQ
Free Float and Autonomous (market-driven) SBP Exchange BUT Managed, Bailed Out (state-controlled) Stock Market. Now Ishaq Dar (lets call him Munshi Patwari or whatever fits-in) can take a lesson to go into complete submission against IMF (no USD buying) but pour public/state-owned PKRs/USDs to manage the crashing Stock Market.
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Non-Personal One: Cut-off Scholarship Funds amid ongoing Degree for PAK Students in Shanghai! - May 31
چین میں مالی مدد کے مُنتظر پاکستانی طلبا: ’شنگھائی بہت مہنگا ہے، ہمیں پیسوں کی سخت ضرورت ہے‘
https://www.bbc.com/urdu/regional-48470190
پاکستان کے صوبہ پنجاب کی حکومت کی جانب سے تعلیمی وظیفے کی رقم نہ دینے کے باعث چین میں زیر تعلیم پاکستانی طلبا کا مستقبل داؤ پر لگ گیا ہے۔
I recall, promise was to invest in youth and developing human resources, not in roads and traditional stuff.
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DISCLAIMER
1, 2, 3: Links are not 'Google Search'. They are called Verified News available for Public Consumption/Verification. They represent Source of Claims and helps Busting Myths and Tales a common plague in the age of Social Media. Welcomed for Factual Corrections with Verifiable Evidence. In case, the post may cause any (political) ego/mood-upset, apologies in advance (unconditionally) as skip option available 24x7.
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Those who are criticizing Imran Khan, must please consider ground realities.
Pakistan currently has de fecto marshal-law. Everything is being controlled from behind. 2ndly Imran Khan doesn't have 2/3rd majority like PMLN.
He has no other option but to take U-Turns on everything he promised because only policies being implemented right now are the ones coming from establishment and Chinese.
So be patient and give him time. I am very hopeful that after Bajwa retires in November, we'll see a different Imran Khan as a leader.
What a leader and what a bravery!
After a long time Pakistan has seen a true Pakistani leader.
History will ever remember him even if he is not successful to bring badmashia under the rule of law.
https://youtu.be/PK8rtsmsB0M
Eid se pehlay awam pe Petrol Bomb chala diya gaya.
Petrol: Rs. 113 /liter
Diesel: Rs. 127 /liter
Oil prices sliding down in international market, now at 3 month low. (WTI: $53.5, Brent: $62).
ايک مسلط کيےگے نالاہق شخص کے عشق ميں ڈوبى هويى قوم کیلئےایڈوانس عیدی کی ایک اور قسط.
گھبرانا نہیں ! ابھی آئی ایم ایف کا بجٹ آنا ہے
Tribute Time: Ex-Finance Minister (Economic Arastoo)
'Time for D-Chowk sit-in to protest petroleum prices: Asad Umar'
"He said that the government was charging tax per liter of Rs 61 on Kerosene and Rs 52 on petrol while the millionaires were given a relief a week before in the name of tax amnesty."
https://nation.com.pk/01-Feb-2016/time-for-d-chowk-sit-in-to-protest-petroleum-prices-asad-umar
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Double Irony: Hiked Petro Price + Tax Amnesty a Week Before (e.g., Haram vs Halal version)
In UAE now no more subsidy on petrol, below I just copied paste the June prices of UAE petrol (on left june prices, righ May prices, again prices gone up further here, no drama on news and media, what ever is international price of petrol we needs to pay. In Pakistan the headline is petrol Bomb.
UAE Diesel Prices Today
Home Search Contact
UAE Diesel Prices - June: 2.56 AED/Litre
Fuel Type Retail price Old price
Gas / Diesel 2.56 AED/L 2.53 AED/L
Unleaded Gasoline 98 - 2.53 AED/L 2.48 AED/L
Unleaded Gasoline 95 - 2.42 AED/L 2.34 AED/L
Gasoline E Plus 91 - 2.34 AED/L 2.25 AED/L
The issues is not on blaming IK and PTI, the issue is who is blaming, if the previous ones would have made Pakistan a Singapore or Japan and then criticizing, I was the biggest protester now.
The person who was in habit of getting electricity by kunda and who was living on illegal kabza land is also saying bad words to IK, forget about the big dirty fishes.
we are basically never in habit to give, only to claim benefits and get free things or live in pathetic conditions on dont give dont ask policy.
The biggest achievement is this change and on going accountability, believe me in long run will have better Pakistan if continue in this way.
Imtiaz / Isloo sb, Just a small request to take in consideration 3 tenures of last two Vs just 10 months. isn't it too early for one to judge and to others we gave 15 years silently.
Unless you were too happy in last regimes and there were doodh and shehed nehrain every where.
Might be possible for some... I am not denying. .
With due respect:
** Chosen Example: UAE (no mention of Income per Capita, Subsidies, Net Price of Fuel etc. Power Consumption Tariffs. May be they doesn't matter while just proving the point :)).
- In UAE, a stand still V8 in AC mode will burn off more fuel
then multiple Mehrans/Corollas running on the road. Context
Matters, so does economic condition to compare.
** Net Increase (AED [PKR]): 0.03 [1.20 PKR], 0.05 [2.0 PKR], 0.08 [3.20], -0.09 [- 3.60: Subsidy].
** Media is a drama because our guys at the top are too. No mention of our Ex-Fin. Minister (Container Mode) vs (Govt. Mode). I am sure, UAE will not have such clowns who claim to lock down city on hiked prices and when in power advocate to be a patriot and pay for Govt. Blunder. Let me reiterate, if such golden words went under the radar.
--> 'Time for D-Chowk sit-in to protest petroleum prices: Asad Umar'
--> "He said that the government was charging tax per liter of Rs 61 on Kerosene and Rs 52 on petrol while the millionaires were given a relief a week before in the name of tax amnesty."
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Re: Accountability: I am all in, and I guess any country man too. Lets see when does the Charity begins at home (normal standard practise around the globe)
To name just a few!
- Pervaiz Elahi (formerly Punjab ka Daku)
- Vawda with offshores and Baynami
- Aleema Khan for Tax Evasion
- Khattak sb and Family co.
- May be just a sample of Peshawar BRT
- Bani Gala land/CDA
Sohail bhai, I acknowledge your views. Sir, one humble request, look at Asad Umer's stance (link and text above), decide for yourself. Sir atleast aik post tu banti hi hai, after a good laugh at the clowns.
Rest, I owe a single vote to the system in a duration of 1825 days approx during each cycle. Baqi time max jo ghalat wo ghalat jo sahi wo sahi hi keh saktay hain.
Never denied tenure completion of any (s)elected/govt. have resisted and will resist what has been wrong, may be just through writings/slight actions ... for now
If no subsidy the effect is same either it is Pakistan or UAE. Per capita is different debate, which don't allow you to drive Land cruiser if not earning more but petrol international price cannot be changed unless give subsidies.
No- catching the words one said in good will or took the bad guys in his party as our mentality to only vote the electable only is not that questionable then supporting a corrupt party leader directly ...
before your long list of bad boys better compare party heads, PMLN head is already inside the jail for assets beyond means and PPPP leader is soon going inside for same.
Both spent 3 tenures each and should be accountable first before pointing any tom dick and herry..
when the leader will be punished rest all small thieves will be in line too.