Imtiaz sb, as explained very well by AQ sb, no doubt inexperience govt, but they have a vision and will to do good. lets hope for the best, they are not our cousins too, but we all overseas are just in new hope and May Allah prosperous Pakistan this coming 5 years ! Amin !.
The old we have seen and tried and there was no more hope, yes you are right PTI collected same faces also, but as I explained above, might in the leader ship of clean person this bad electable will also do good this time either by pressure or by having no other option. ..
"IK is clean and will make others also the same" --> that's a very tall claim from one human of our time for another. Anyways, we wish, at the end as a nation we improve and so does the ones at top.
Anyways, we wish but my memory doesn't ring a bell that after whatever completion of tenure the PM elect/select was still clean/democratic/patriot (as certified by the puppet masters).
Our national narratives, as tutored by masters:
- Ayub was a revolutionist post Liaqat Ali
- Bhutto was a Messiah post Dictator Ayub,
- Zia was a Saviour post Ghaddar Bhutto,
- Benazir was Face of Democracy post Murderer/Mullah Zia
- Nawaz was a reformist post corrupt Benazir
- Musharraf was 'Pakistan First' Commando Leader Post Bharat ka Yaar Nawaz
- Zardari was symbol of federation post Traitor Musharraf
- Nawaz was the ultimate progressive post incompetent/corrupt Zardari
- Imran is clean visionary post 70 years of corrupt Ghaddar Lot
- To be continued....
Characters of Puppets and their Masters Change, Script doesn't. Rings any bell?
Imtiaz sb, in the list above the leaders were only Liaqat Ali, Bhutto and now IK. the previous two were also stopped to complete and same is struggle with IK.
Sir aap ka Husn e Nazar hai... :) Jo Kamal ker day...
When about performance, he needs more time. However he is a by-default leader even before completing 1/5 of a tenure...
Imtiaz Bhai, He didnt came directly from cricket field to the PM house, He spent his life in struggle from a Hospital to a big vision and proof his leadership for 20 + years, the biggest leader ship of his is putting the untouchables thieves behind the bars and putting a third party in between the monopoly of two from decades.
BY performance we mean the time to let his visions fulfill.
Sohail bhai, I guess, we are talking about 'Political Leadership', otherwise there are lots of them in almost all fields, as long as 'Welfare Work/Vision and Philanthropy' Eidhi sb work and vision can be decades ahead of any of his predecessor but he may not, necessarily was the PM material. For me, to date, we don't have any genuine 'Political Leader', rather just a bunch of opportunists needed and disposed of by the system, as the situation arose.
However, I do agree, in a situation we are now as a nation, Optimism is what is needed. IK or for that sake any one in Elected Assemblies deserves their tenure subject to due criticism and appreciation, as per the performance.
Hoping for best with 'Change' and 'Naya Pakistan' built by people itself, the only practical way... Rest all come and go.
O Sohail Khana,
Kab mano gey yara, jub sub khatam ho jay ga. ya phir sachay Pathan ki tarha kabhi nahi mano gey, chahey ye Nalaiq-e-Azam khud munh sey kahay "mein aik Nalaiq puppet hon" , aap phir bhi nahin mano gey.
To phir sub facts and figures, logic, analysis aur ground realities bekaar hein.
Us ki har baat ghalat sabit ho chuki hey, us ki saari team farigh ho chuki hey, ab game us ke paas waisay bhi nahin hey.
Mushkil yeh hey keh is Na-ahal Zakat Chore nashai ney 10 months mein mulk ka yeh haal kar diya hey, Log sarkon par galiyan de rehay hein aur aap Sheikh Zayed road par V8 mein baith kar khawab dekh rehay ho. Bhai mulk wapis aao aur dekho mery is mulk ka haal.
Dekho, ab to JDM bhi maan gya hey.
" a thousand men can not undress a NAKED MAN "
Let us sleep peacefully and terrorism having nightmares. NS, AZ corruption, the main reason to introduce master piece of an appointment
Zartaj Gul sister to serve NECTA
https://www.siasat.pk/forums/threads/zartaj-gul-sister-to-serve-necta.695735/
New director NECTA, an academic in IR department with (not any) Proven Excellence in Counter Terrorism!
May be a curse of Sahiwal incidence on this nation...
A proven successful track record of philanthropy public welfare work.
VS
A proven track record of corruption misuse of public welfare funds.
Insane comparisons. Amusing though.
None of that was and is even MNA material let alone PM & 'Leader'. When the proven successful track records come to haunt the nation, better to take them on face value rather then making a Mother Teresa out of them!
Two wrong to make One right is equally amusing.
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Haunts of 'proven successful track record of philanthropy public welfare work'
Don't forget, all of us to visit near Petro stations to pay 4+ PKR extra/L to celebrate, donate your hard earned to support new director (Academic in IR, still unsuccessful in getting a doctorate after 9 yrs of enrollment). Countering Terrorism - safeguards of Public Welfare Funds & Nation.
The Lady got disqualified from any teaching job and stripped out of PU Studentship on Plagiarism.
PU disqualifies two researchers
https://www.dawn.com/news/232687
"It also canceled the studentship of Shabnam Gul for M.Phil in Kashmiryat with immediate effect."
Maryam Captain Safdar
(SISTER) ( from Wikipedia)( pure cut and paste)
Maryam safdar was born on 28 October 1973[4][5][6] in Lahore, Pakistan,[1][7][8] to Nawaz Sharif and Kulsoom Butt.[9]
She received her early education from the Convent of Jesus and Mary, Lahore.[2][10] She wanted to become a doctor[9] hence she enrolled in King Edward Medical College in the late 1980s, however after a controversy over illegal admission arose, she had to left the college without completing her degree.[11]
In 1992, she married Safdar Awan[12] at the age of 19.[2] Awan was serving as captain in Pakistan Army at that time[13] and was the security officer of Nawaz Sharif during the latter's tenure as Prime Minister of Pakistan.[2] As of October 2017, she has three children with Safdar Awan:[2] One son Junaid and two daughters Mahnoor and Mehr-un-Nisa.[14]
She completed undergraduate studies from the University of Punjab, from where she received a master's degree[1] in literature.[2] In 2012, she was doing her Ph.D. degree on post-9/11 radicalization in Pakistan.[15]
In 2014, her degrees in M.A. (English Literature) and Ph.D. in Political Science were questioned by Lahore High Court.[16][17] It was unclear whether her Ph.D. degree was earned or honorary.[18] In 2018, she only declared her master's degree in English Literature while submitting records to the Election Commission of Pakistan.[19]
""I had exposed long ago that some google search darbari is sharing pieces of Fake News as Facts!""
Open Challenge: 1 Single Instance of exact pinpoint or highlight wherever any false/fabricated/fake news have been shared from this account on the same forum?
--> Still awaiting proof...
Just wandering, how one can still gather the nerves to get back online again after accusing others multiple times and failing to produce evidence/proof even for a single time...
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- Question: Why illegal appointment of Director NECTA (BPS 19) by violating all rules?
- Answer: Wikipedia Text explaining some non-related person
If some Wikipedia Intellect lacks guts to even read full page, one can only feel pity for that-self.
--> The Lady appointed as NECTA Director is a Public Office Holder
--> The Lady Maryam Nawaz is a disqualified candidate (Law Enforced) and a nobody to public, except for her whatever political activities.
Right?
Now can we move on to know why the appointment? and enforce the same law that disqualified one of them earlier ...
Zartaj Gul made official request to appoint her sister in Nacta
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/479418-zartaj-gul-made-official-request-to-appoint-her-sister-in-nacta
Isloo Roora , I believe only on what i saw, I might be a supporter of IK for two things, 1. he is not corrupt 2. He got a vision for the country.
On the other hand. both Nawaz and Zardari are corrupt (even if never proved in courts but the condition of country telling their tales and also the growth of their own assets are the proof) and having no vision for country (if they were having any would have put the country on track by now in their three tenures).
Lastly yes I am Pathan but not Idiot to put my hand in same whole where I was stung twice.
Pity the nation who can not form its own independent opinion.
Pity the nation whose minds are made up for them.
By the same who control the power and busy making someone 'hero' and someone 'zero'.
Totally at their will.
Pity the nation that can not think can not see.
But just recycles words coming out of propaganda machine.
(with apology to Khalil Jibran)
Sohail Khana,
Let me give you a different perspective here and see if you are able to analyze and respond rationally.
In this country, there have always been only two sides. The 'Civilian Supremacy' side and the 'Other' side. The Other side, sitting at sacred position uses coersive strategies and media control, divides-and-conquer the first side. It controls resourses and powers and keeps the first side in poverty, illiteracy and chaos.
Now tell me which side you are on and we'll end this debate here.
(N.B. No personality comparison please. And this question to all over-zealot, hardliners at this forum please.)
The day, nation gets up to a shock appointment, to say the least:
destroying merit (merit corruption),
*promoting nepotism (rules & regulations negation)
*murdering highly important institute with a totally non-relevant person (institutional politicization)
Our dear(s) of forum are praising the individual in-charge for non-corruption and vision. Atleast, a word to condemn the act would had given, may be tiniest bit of legitimacy to the claims!
This is the recent among the other, where our clean guy's right hand's nephew was appointed as a Director in NADRA (1).
* Re: Clean & Visionary
- Not going into those personal life stuff and just restricting myself to public-domain act, perhaps the following
(2) Bani Gala Illegal Structure
(3) Grand Hayat Apartment
(4) London flat declared only under Tax Amnesty (83 to 2003, not declared in Tax Returns)
(5) Aleema Khan's Offshores
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(1) to (5) are those minimal examples of the man himself that somehow appeared in public and media and a least knowledge person like me also know them. For valuable forumers who are allergic to Evidences for Claims, (1) to (5) are marked specifically, in case one needs evidence of 'Clean & Visionary', feel free to ask or counter-argue!
In general: Its the human nature that when we create Idols, it becomes way more difficult to destroy them with same hand/mindset that created them in the first place.
Is it zameen forum or siasat.pk forum? sir plz, we r here to get info on property. Siasat is all on the TV channels and social media wahan say we ll come to know about pakistan future. Aap log property per dhiyaan dein plz.
Apologies Faisal from my end. You are right with your view.
This thread is on Currency Devaluation and all other loosely related topics. However, as a matter of ground reality, national attitude matters. Even if one goes to seal the deal in any Real Estate Office, there would be a must chunk of Political Discussion. Politics, context and real estate gets tangled many a times. Also, as a nation, we do need narrative/counter-narrative to at-least discuss and help each other educating and letting the optimism/frustrations to come out.
There are many other threads, purely dedicated to Real Estate specific discussion.
Consider 'Currency Devaluation' on Zameen as the 'Speaker's Corner' of the Hyde Park (Public Park but with an exception of a debating corner in it - could be annoying for few but somehow works for other lot).
Hope you can understand. Again, it's just one thread and contains almost what its name implies plus some bonus stuff :)
Apologies again from my end, for whatever irritation this thread may be causing to any of our friends.
@Faisal, country's economy is in ICU, in few days, you'll forget about zameen o makan.