Does anybody have a rough idea about the % of houses built in B-17, block A, B or C? I am just wondering if at least 25% houses are built by people in each of these blocks or no? This will just help me in my evaluation as I can’t seem to understand why the whole Zone 2 (which is full of million societies) and so close to Zone 1 has such a hard time attracting general population who will live here while Zone 5 which is so far and still able to attract so many people who are willing to built their homes.
Hardly 2 to 3 percent in block B
One or less than one percent in block A
All other blocks are in paper only except part of C block wid no house I think
Above is my assessment
Aap KA APNA
Crore patti
Zone 5 development started in 90s. DHA and Bahria began their work much before most parts of Zone 2.
In Zone 2, JKCHS is relatively old, and you cam see population there. Other societies like F-17 of Multi and D-17 are also getting populated.
In a couple of years you will see more houses in all societies such as Cabinet, B-17, E-18, D-18 etc. Now it is only a matter of time before you will see proper Zone 2 getting out of reach for common man.
...So I guess one point that Pk1 mentioned is the fact that Work in Zone 2 started much later than Zone 5. Though I still believe there are more reasons to this, for example i think if Bahria announces today that they are launching a new phase in Zone 2, I bet the prices will be more than any other Bahria launch price and people will jump on it like never before. Imagine what will be Zone 5 without bahria/dha .....
...Are there other reasons that are keeping interest and prices low in Zone 2, like infrastructure, existing population to draw upon, good developers like bahria/dha, Too many Unknowns etc etc?. But I do think that Zone 2's future is bright as long as we have good developers who will deliver a good product in a timely manner. Any thoughts/experiences are welcome.
Bahria/DHA has very little chances to pool in Zone-2 as most of the Valuable land has been acquired by Cooperative Housing Societies.
The DHA of Zone-2 can be AWT as the party behind AWT is same.
Bahria of Zone-2 is MPCHS, they are following almost the same trends as of Bahria in Zone-5.
So one can believe that in Zone-2 both brands are present somehow.
Its just the matter of time when this UPSWING starts and that will remain for atleast 2-3 years.
After UPSWING in Zone-2 the seesaw will bound towards Zone-4 (Bahria Enclave, Park Enclave and if Multi park is there).
Cheers
...I hope Zone 2 picks up sooner than later. G15 is a special case in zone 2, its one of the older society in this zone (not the oldest though) with poor standards and a poor developer But I think the reason it got developed and people built there houses were for a simple reason that G SERIES IS ALL THE WAY DEVELOPED TILL G-15 and they were simply able to cash on the existing population.
...Imagine if all the other CDA series C,D,E,F were developed all the way till zone 2. That would have benefited all the other zone 2 neighbouring societies just like it benefited G15.
...MPCHS is perhaps a v good developer but i am not sure if its as good as bahria or dha And even if it is, its still has to establish itself as a brand name like they did.
...I just hope that people start locating to zone 2 and start building their houses here as they find it difficult to afford zone 1 prices and zone 5 is too far for them. Once this starts, everything will change.
100% agreed with Crore Patti, as I have visited B-17 personally about 3 weeks ago.
I went there to done a deal but was really disappointed when I visited the B, A & C block.
These are my findings (which forced me not to buy at B-17)
1: tooo far (yes it is!!!!)
2: poor road material (even main B-block road already has many potholes, start just after 800 meters from main gate- so think what will happen when people start building their homes!!! and will the MPCHS rebuild all street/roads - a big question!)
3: very thin population
4: no security
4: no gas (as yet)
5: well over priced if I compare living standard with few other Societies!!
I just came back to UK where I am living and before traveling to Pakistan about a month ago I have asked senior forum members for their opinion - and got the impression that - TRY BEFORE YOU BUY - which I did so and bought a 35x70 somewhere else, so the same advice to all respectable members.
Again these are my finding and I am not an expert but this is my responsibility to tell you the truth.
...True. I am in the same boat as i am still trying to find a justification for the B-17 craze. Still cannot figure out what is so great about this sector at this point that's driving the prices Up while nobody is willing to built a house and live there. Also B-17 is a v big sector and instead of fixing up/dealing with their existing blocks (a,b,c,d,e) they have launched the 6th block (F block) now. This whole thing is easily a 10 plus year project.
...So the question comes, Why would somebody rather not invest in Bahria and Dha WHICH IS A REALITY. You have established brand names and existing population to draw upon and you have people who are willing to build their homes tomorrow. Vs B-17 which has so many unknowns and CAN BE A REALITY one day- who knows when and is not cheaper either.
...Yes Bahria/Dha is a little farther but we are talking about investment here. (and anyways even if zone 2 is closer, nobody is willing to build their houses here)
xxxPlease help me understand why B-17 is a good investment than bahria/dha based on today's facts not tomorrow's speculation. Maybe I am missing something here, please share your thoughts and experiences.
No real clue for b-17 craze. …bandwagon scenario. …
It is also becoz a number plots are with filling and you had to bear high contruction cost for building a house and some times heavy losses if the structure sinks due to poor soil quality…dust from stone crushing sites and cement plant is a very big issue and pose many health risk…you can see big dust clouds hovering over the area at evening…
Are you saying there is a cement plant and Stone Crushing plants nearby causing all the dust issue in the area? Is this a temporary or a permanent problem? (Sorry - I am oversees and haven’t visited the B-17 site so i have no idea)
This crushing unit is in taxila that is very close to F-block and for whole B-17 in general.
Yea cement plant is infornt of B block main gate across the GT road and stone crushing sites are located at the boundary of A, E, F blocks…
That's horrible. Who would want to live there with their families and kids because it seems to me a permanent problem and its a serious health hazard because of this dust inhalation. One more negative of B-17.
....Then why is there so much hype about the B-17 and people interested in investing here and calling it Bahria of Zone 2? ....I just wonder why people have so much faith in MPCHS?
Some very interesting remarks on B-17, can any of the experts/Gurus comment please ... @Pk1, @Crore patti, @Isbase.
Should one still buy in B-17 and what are the pluses, if any? Thanks
Please Comment and tell us what are the pluses of B-17. We are just finding negatives as we dig deeper - Seniors/ experts/ gurus your thoughts would help us narrow down this topic.
Ammad sb i was not in the favor of b-17 very much from day 1 as reflected in my posts…Here some people call it as e-11 of future and compare it with e-11…
2 Percent.
MPCHS is an emerging brand proving well from E-11 to B-17 to F-17 and might be something for Zone-4 in future coming Multi Enclave or Multi Park whatever it is.
The primary objective of most of the investors here is to fall in a win-win situation ! ALL want to grow their investment profile.
You have to increase the transactions or in other words increase the trade. Put your stakes for certain time period keeping the timeline and/or benchmark set in your brain. RIGHT
Trading can be off many things files/possession plot / non possession plot BUT to be at the safer side Possession Plot is always preferred !
One has to choose from different avenues for investment !
All the well known brands are offering the same thing giving you the TRUST that your investment will grow. So brand is not an issue here its just GOING WITH THE FLOW.
The Stock Market strategy !
B-17 is near to crushing zone YES. Does it Matter Really ???
DRAG Racing it is not a dessert rally ! Choose your Avenues, decide your field (Zone-1,Zone-2,Zone-4 or Zone-5) to perform and BANG IN with high octane filled TANK. !!
Let me know if you understand !
Cheers
Check stories of places like gawader, once a gold mine for investors. … Once the investor game is over than who really wants to build houses at these locations and could live whole life there…as rightly pointed by ISBase this place is for trading…