Dollars Vs RealEstate

You are dumb as F. It’s useless to reply to your messages since your aim is not to listen but prove yourself right even if you are ignorant. I don’t have time to argue with you or make you understand so consider this my last reply. Did you pull these numbers out of you a-s?

Pakistan’s external debt is approx 130 Bn. Source : Pakistan Total External Debt - 2022 Data - 2023 Forecast - 2002-2021 Historical

Do you even know how bond markets work? The interest is not 13% but more than 50%. According to your logic, it must be very lucrative but it’s not not. You need to learn the basic of financial markets because opening your big mouth.

E.g
Bond value + interest = $1
Overall value of the bond (bond + interest) always remain the same
If bond value + interest = 99% + 1% =$1 than its stable and attractive because interest is low (it can also be negative) but if bond value + interest = 87% + 13% = $1 than it means high probability of going default.

Higher interest rate means higher chance of default. Like you said, Pakistan bond interest rate is highest in history so it means market thinks it is most likely to get default.

You are right. Okay dummies can understand how you understand the bond market.

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A Youthia will remain a Youthia, no matter what. Will always stoop to low level even during technical discussion.

Trading Economics is a secondary source. One has to look at primary source (State Bank) to ascertain debt figures, which are what I quoted.

No, I never claimed to know bond market, I simply presented what others think. But pretty sure it is not rocket science either, and someone with basic knowledge could’ve looked at data and market trends to validated the claim of ‘high demand’. Even if the concept of ‘high demand’ sounds absurd, the query deserved an objective analysis and technical response.

But perhaps it is too much to expect such objectivity from this ignorant lot who hates data and if compelled, will look at the ‘container’ or secondary sources for wisdom.

You are right man. PML-N is the right party to govern Pakistan. Now you can sleep peaceful. Lol!

Shahzad sb
Do not waste time on the " copy/paste" dudes. These types do not have any rationale behind their stupid prose & poetry …
If you declare just now being mafia’s side, all your claims & logic will be declared best one with them, without any legitimate debate …

@shazafburki21 . Your remark is off-topic so I ignore it on this thread.

I also ignore the usual rubbish from the tout of hundi mafia,

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Bahria

Rupee is fluctuating big time.

what’s special that currency corrected a bit today ?

Rupee and stock market registering gains today. Analysts relate this to these factors:

  1. PDM Govt getting stronger position after EC decision yesterday.
  2. IMF deal nearing restoration
  3. Oil prices coming down in Int’l market.
  4. Import payment pressure is reduced.

This is what Miftah has been telling us that rupee will get better in first week of August. Let’s see if it maintains downward trend or keeps fluctuating.

The main factor is yesterday IMF given signal on releasing first payment by end of august. PKR is undervalued on fear of uncertainty, as soon as elections are announced it will be much better.

Announcement of early elections will raise political uncertainty again that will prevail until new govt takes charge. But that new govt should be in good terms with IMF, saudis and chinese. Otherwise, there will be no respite for the economy in near term.

Advice to Overseas Pakistani Investors

It may be a risk, as tide might turn any time, but keeping optimism high, you may move to convert your dollars and benefit from the highest exchange rate and stagnant property prices.

No risk, no gain !

exchange rate was never or will never be highest, please remind us if ever rupee strengthened permanently,

Yes gradual devaluation can be justified with the value of property increase.
But the blood bath of PKR in last 3 months was never witnessed in history of Pakistan.

FOR THE RECORD.

Yes, in 3 months span, this was the biggest decline where rupee lost PKR 55 to a dollar (~30% depreciation, from 185 to 240). But it is on reverse trajectory now and if above 4 factors are addressed then may settle under 200.

But nothing beats previous govt tenure where decline was a historic 70 rupee to a dollar (~60% depreciation, from 115 to 185).

Ohh short memories, forgot the dollar dar contributions to maintaining the fake dollar rates, to help criminals take out dollars out of country at cheap rates.

you still advising overseas to bring dollar back for the convicted criminals to refill their London assets.

for your percentage calculations

even after dollar dar contributions, PTI took at 123, at their end at 177 = 54 in 3.5 years.
Group of criminals took at 177 end at 240 = 63 in 3 months.
which one you called the worst.

Your point is not clear, is currency devaluation good or bad???

I am only advising overseas investors to make money. Money knows no borders, no favourites.